I just found this post on ATKOL Forums but I can’t confirm it. At first, it sounds like a late April Fool’s Day prank for me. But Ricky Sinz confirmed it.
Hey everyone–
Raging Stallion has launched a Straight for Pay line that features many of our Gay and Bi guys doing straight porn–it is male focused rather than girl focused like most straight porn. Ricky Sinz is doing the casting and heading up this line. As soon as the first movie is ready I will make an announcement.
For those of you who bought a copy of Grunts: Misconduct (or the six disc set) one of these straight scenes is in the special features disc.
Chris Ward
Well, if it’s true, It sounds like a refreshing idea. I’ve never thought or heard of it before. I’ve sent them email and will give you update when I get reply.
27 Apr 08
4:41 pm
Wow what a great idea, i would love to see rj danvers or steve cruz or logan mc cree really bang a lady.
27 Apr 08
7:50 pm
Yes the rumors are completely true and I have already begun shooting with an allstar cast from both the gay industry and the straight industry including a fierce penthouse model and from what I have seen I have to say I’m very impressed with the models performances. And I that the boys of gay porn are out performing the boys in straight porn in all aspects and I feel it is a unique concept that will be another step in cutting edge entertainment and another stone taken out of the wall seperating the boundaries between the straight and the glbt community.
I’ll announce more as this project develops
28 Apr 08
12:49 am
I have a huge collection from Corbins Amateur College Sex where Dawson,Lucas et al on Guy on girl action. I like watching a hot guy fuck a girl it just conventional straight porn is horrible!
A smart move considering 20% of Gay porn watchers are women why would we not think plenty of Gay men might not watch their fav gay performers in action.
Ricky Sinz keep me in mind I’ll certainly Blog about this I love ALL Kinds of Porn! Gay,Straight,Bi!
28 Apr 08
3:16 am
Worst idea ever.
RS is the premier gay porn studio, and the idea of seeing any of their exclusives fucking women solely in a straight production, is total turnoff. I can see the appeal of them producing bi vids, but straight porn from a gay studio is something I have no interest in seeing. RS will lose a lot of customers over this.
Btw, gay porn is first and foremost produced by and for gay men. Even if I believed 20% of it’s consumers are women, so what? Gay men watch straight porn, and I don’t see the straight industry throwing in gay sex scenes to please gay men.
28 Apr 08
4:59 am
Hey Ricky, can you give us some names on who’s gonna be on this video? I’m really interested.
28 Apr 08
6:08 am
Why the Balkanazation in Sexuaklity?
We are sexual beings and if we are honest with our selves we know that human sexuality is a sliding scale. I identify as gay and yet I have been attracted to and had sex with women. Does that mean I am Bi?
No I have sex with men 99% of the time, I enjoy watching two guys get it on in porn but for variety I don’t mind seeing a straight guy fuck his GF.
I told Kurt Wild a month ago I had watched his CF video with Jasmine (ACS) he was surprised he said very few gay guys admit to that.
Don’t know why I guess if somone one is attractive sexualy I enjoy seeing them fuck no matter male or female.
What I HATE is Straight porn with bimbos with implants, spike heels, and nails that is a warped straight pornographers view and I do not think we will see that at RS!
28 Apr 08
3:39 pm
Fucking ruins it.
I used to get so turned on by the idea of Raging Stallion. A stable full of hot, out, proud gay men acting out their primal instincts. I have a huge collection of their movies and after seeing Fancois Sagat making out with that ugly girl on youtube, I can’t watch his movies anymore.. he’s ruined in my eyes.. I lose my boner when I see him. He’s no longer a hot guy who likes sex with men.. he’s just some trollop who’ll have sex with anything and look like he’s enjoying it.
If this is true I’m done with RS.
28 Apr 08
3:47 pm
Dont be such a hater brian, i feel this will be pretty taboo breaking in a way which will turnalot of people on.
29 Apr 08
2:59 am
I think it’s an interesting idea, or at least an original one, which is saying something considering how varied porn already is.
Personally, it’s not for me, but I’d be very interested to see how they handle the gender dynamics (i.e. let the woman top the guy with a strap on). I think it has a real potential to expand what’s out there in terms of straight sex.
The bi-stuff aside, the chances of you seeing a guy from a mainstream straight studio receiving anal-anything is about the same as seeing a lesbian porn marketed for lesbians. If this can help more straight guys get in touch with their prostates (pun intended), then more power to it. I just hope it doesn’t become a novelty.
29 Apr 08
5:22 am
Sorry, but this idea is horrible and it’s going to do nothing but make my dick limp.
Straight guys don’t WANT to see hot guys in porn.. it makes them feel inadequate. That’s why the most famous straight male porn stars look like Ron Jeremy. This is straight porn featuring gay guys for gay guys to watch.. except no self-respecting gay guys are going to want to see it.
The whole idea is smarmy. Corinthian saying that this is going to lead to straight guys taking it up the ass from women is stupid.. there’s already plenty of niche video with women giving it to guys up the ass and the majority of straight guys haven’t gotten in touch with anything. The stat that 20% of gay porn is rented by women is just plain ridiculous. Playgirl maybe has a 20% women demographic but gay porn is maybe 3% women… probably less.
I’m with Brian. It’s a bad idea that will most likely be short-lived. The only thing it’s going to do is destroy the reputation of Raging Stallion and their stars.
29 Apr 08
2:51 pm
GoBang is making a lot of assumptions here. There are plenty of hot guys in straight porn that have made it big: Julian, Peter North, TTBoy, Rocco Sifredi just to name a few (I used to watch straight porn before I knew better
), so his statement about Ron Jeremy is completely off. I’m not even gonna get into the statistics, cuz it’s all assumption.
All I’m saying is that this might have the potential to convince more straight men to view ass-play as acceptable and not necessarily “gay”, shift the sexual paradigm so to speak. The problem with the niche market he’s talking about is it’s populated with unknowns; straight guys are rabid when it comes to their Jesse Janes and Belladonnas; who knows what might happen if they see their fave porn starlet pounding the hell out of someone butch like Francesco D’Macho. If RS markets this right, they could do something big with it. As far as damaging their reputation, lots of companies have used /created other companies to market their non-usual wares to protect themselves, look at what Disney does with Miramax.
29 Apr 08
3:42 pm
Where exactly is it stated that RS is doing a line a strap on films? Nowhere I saw anywhere.
This article is about RS doing a straight line featuring their models fucking women. Who exactly would be the market for this? Beyond the inititial curiosity factor, I don’t see gay men running out to buy these vids, so who exactly is the market for this? Any straight man or woman watching this is only gonna see another straight video.
Unless RS plans to agressively market these videos with some kind of inane “straight for pay” tag, I fail to see the point of this beyond turning off the majority of their customers, which will surely happen if they go down this road.
29 Apr 08
5:44 pm
No one said RS was doing a line of strap films, read more carefully.
). I’m a freakin’ 11 on the Kinsey scale and I couldn’t give a crap. It’s a manufactured fantasy, get over it!
I just read the ATKOL post on this (great forum btw, just discovered it, thx!), and I find it interesting how some gay guys have this inclusive, almost aggressively protective attitude towards the gay porn industry. The notion of a bi or gay-for-pay actor seems to illicit disgust or offense in some people; like finding out their favorite actor isn’t a 6 on the Kinsey Scale is somehow seen as a personal betrayal (there’s gotta be a psychological term for this. If there isn’t, I call shotgun on naming it; I’ll call it the “Gay Napoleon Complex”
Acc. to the forum, Ricky Sinz wrote that part of the purpose of this project is because “bi male models and bi curious male models need a place to call home and a place where they can show their talent off in a safe, professional, enviornment.” Apparently, bi guys get a lot of flak from both sides of the divide…imagine that.
Whatever your opinion is on the subject, this seems to be gaining attention. Conflict breeds change, and I hope this one is positive.
Equal rights for all orifices (’cept the ears, that’s just impractical)!
29 Apr 08
10:03 pm
Corinthian, maybe we’re protective of anything gay because straight people and “bisexuals” take it all away from us.
Anything we make that’s cool? Straight people take it away. The coolest gay neighborhoods like The Castro.. going straight.. and now the straight people are all complaining to city hall about all the gayness there. Gay bars? places like The Abbey or Tiger Heat in West Hollywood used to be the best places until the straight people took over. Now it’s 85% straight people pointing and laughing (or worse) at the few gay people who’d dare go in. Same thing for just about all the best gay dance clubs. They get too good and they’re suddenly full of the people who come to point and laugh at the funny queers. Then they just take over.
Gay pride day? No longer exists.. now it’s Lesbian, Bisexual, Transgendered and begrudgingly gay pride day. More and more straight people show up with their kids and then give us shit because their kids are seeing some exposed flesh.
The gay porn industry is OURS, dammit. Maybe we don’t own the companies but we are the ones who supported it.. It’s there because we helped make it and it was made for US. For many of us it was the first proof that there were other people out there like us. Many of us, like it or not, used those porn models as our role models.
Now some bisexual director is coming along and spoiling even THAT. He’s now going on about how the poor bisexuals can’t get a break. So he’s now taking yet another thing away from us in the name of being inclusive. Pretty soon we’ll have fag hag night at the local gay bath house… followed by the straight guys who show up to pick up the fag hags..
You know what? I don’t care if I’m being fair or rational.
It’s porn, dammit… it’s GAY porn and I don’t think I need to defend my disgust at yet another part of the very cool gay culture that we’ve made in the face of so much hate being taken away from us by some bisexual guy who doesn’t want us to have anything that’s ours and only ours.
29 Apr 08
10:05 pm
By the way, I notice that Ricky Sinz is on here blathering on about how this is going to take down a wall between the straight and glbt communities.
Had he maybe considered that we’d like just ONE thing like SEX to stay gay? Fuck, what is the fucking disconnect with some people?
30 Apr 08
1:31 am
Let’s make faggot the new nigger!
It’s us against them, yadda yadda yadda…
It’s just a socio-pornographic experiment not a bisexual jihad. RS is a business first and foremost; they’re not going to aggressively market something to a demographic that doesn’t give a shit. The fact that they’re even trying something that seems doomed to fail is admirable. If this fails, then it fails, but at least they tried to push the envelope. What irks me is people trying to bash it before anything’s even happened simply because they’re too insecure about the future.
And yes gentrification sucks, someone always gets pushed out: The gays come to the ghettos, push the blacks and hispanics out, raise the equity value, and gets pushed in turn by the couple with the 2.5 kids. But that’s life, what’re you gonna do. I’m gay because I was born this way, not because of the community I lived in. Communities are always gonna change; it’s futile to think that any one group can lay claim to one for long. You want something to last, make it a landmark.
All I’m saying is that given what we’ve been/are going through, you’d think we’d be a little more tolerant. All this crap about being disgusted by bi’s is so stupid its embarrassing. If you really believe that then you’re a bigot, a gay bigot…congratulations, you’re an oxymoron!
And that’s my piece. I’d love to go on and on about this but I have finals to study for.
30 Apr 08
1:47 am
I’m obviously older than you. And Canadian. Anyway, I remember a long time ago there was a Quebecois band called “the Box” who had been the most popular band in Quebec History. They’d sell out stadiums. But only in Quebec. Thinking that they would try to bring in a new audience, they announced that they’d release their next album in English. Their die-hard, dedicated, rabid fan-base reacted horribly. Their album was met with modest success in English Canada but they got virtually no play in Quebec. Their main base felt betrayed and they lost everything. Their success in english was short-lived and they had virtually no Francophone audience to return to.
Piss off your main fan base and you’re done. I’m not saying it’s fair and I’m not saying it’s rational. I’m saying that although we may want chocolate in our peanut butter, we don’t want straight in our gay porn. Straights don’t want gay in their straight porn… there’s no happy ending like the Reese’s commercials.
Sorry, but although all bisexuals insist that everyone is bisexual and that we’re all just too uptight to admit it, that’s just bullshit bisexual propaganda. Most people are either gay or straight. Bisexuals ruin everything else… now they’re trying to ruin our porn.
Yeah, I know I’m being a bigot, I know I’m being a little bitch and I know I’m being totally irrational. You’d think a porn company like Raging Stallion would know that porn customers are NEVER rational. I’m just one person who’s got the guts to admit it.
01 May 08
8:04 am
Oh great - straight porn. Like we need more of that. I don’t like the idea. Why? Because I get nothing out of it - simply put. Bisexuality isn’t even the issue here. Nor is the issue about opening straight men so that anal won’t equal gay to them. Hello, many people already know that, so get over the tolerance crusade mindset with constant references to the Kinsey scale and such. They, like me just detest faux bisexuality, which unfortunately is not easily distinguished mentally from simple meaningless sex with some of the same (if you’re straight) or opposite (if you’re gay) sex. Gay men sexually and romantically bonding with women as opposed to just using their physical body as a means to an end is unattractive to me even as it’s only a fascade. Maybe if the porn centered around gay identified men who expressed an openess to being serviced by a womans body parts, but made it clear he wasn’t interested or attracted to “her” at all, I’d be ok, and frankly, probably because that is more realistic.
02 May 08
5:45 pm
wow brian you are one of the most ignorant people i have met you seemed to have missed the point about the line being a straight line not a gay line.
ricky actually used to own one of the most successful web based straight lines on the market today so if he could do tha once hell do it again
and im sorry you feel that bisexuals are ruining the world but its ignorant people like you making the average gay man look bad,
you better be careful not to be too cool or the straight people will come get you to
i say if ricky wants to launch a straight line more power to him i think the concept is a good idea and if you feel that it is going to melt the gay and straight commnity together and bring down the collapse of gay civilization everywhere than ricky must be one hell of a director to do all that while shooting hot porn
remember its different strokes for different folks and if this doesnt stroke you than watch the strictly gay films and avoid the straight genre films
im glad to see that someone is trying something new
and most porn fans are rational except for a few
life is about trying new things let him see what he can do
02 May 08
5:50 pm
Go get ‘em Ricky. If anyone could do it, then it is you. Breaking boundaries and concepts once again. Crossing the market is great and it seems like just another ground breaking venture for Raging Stallion again. I would love a world where sexuality is sexuality and we can stop with the gay, bi, straight boxes and just leave it “sex” or “no sex” (there in lay the question). Great venture and adventure.
Love the twist on the “Gay for Pay” and flipping that to “Straight for Pay”. The guys are of high standard in Raging Stallion so I think this will up the standard of straight porn companies and give them something to think about (and give more money to RS to support our boys .. haha … anything to help us get more films to watch).
I know the straight women at work talk about watching gay porn all the time because of the tight bodies, so I think they will love this idea in being able to see what gay guys can do. It will probably be fun for the gay guys to play outside their box and I am sure some will be squeamish .. its great!!! Make sure you get some behind the scenes footage, since its bound to have some funny moments.
We have fun hassling the straight guys that do gay porn so I guess “turn-about is fair play” and it is time for the gay boys to see what they can do when the coin is flipped. I have a feeling they may be a bit more passionate in some areas and may bring something back to the gay side. This will be fun to see as it unfolds. Curiousities will just be able to play out any way they want in Raging Stallion. Talk about experimentation!!!
Just have fun Ricky and hope your gay men have fun too getting to fiddle with the ladies. This will be good for the bi guys too so that they can stay with RS completely and satisfy both sides of their desires. Ricky, show the world who is boss.
I just love this … haha!!!
02 May 08
5:55 pm
Ricky has always been a controversial character in real life and in porn, so i think for him to try something like this is a good idea, i watch both gay and straight porn and to me this is very appealing, i loved rickys old straight work and his old website he had a very unique concept that he started because nobody wanted to work with tattooed models and it took off, i know ricky is probably one of the most well connected people in the industry on both sides of the house, so if he wants to start a new genre let him im sick of all the websites advertising straight boys firts time and trying to push all these fake straight guys, this sounds like reality raw and real and i think its a great idea
02 May 08
6:10 pm
i’ve seen a lot of people saying they think it’s an interesting idea but i don’t see anyone saying they cant wait to see gay guys fuck straight sex. i think its gross and i’m not gonna buy it and i dont think anyone else will either.
02 May 08
6:16 pm
If any of the guys doing these films are having sex with women, then they in no way are gay men. I don’t know any man who finds the idea of this appealing, unless he’s bisexual.
These films will be interesting for nothing more than finding out which of these guys is actually bi.
Raging Stallion will suffer for this.
02 May 08
7:35 pm
Do you really believe that a gay man (at 100%) can
make deep sex with a straight woman without great
problems?(better:do u really believe that a straight man (at 100%) can make deep sex with another man WITHOUT GREAT PROBLEMS?He must be a true
BISEXUAL…
03 May 08
5:38 pm
i think this idea is a good concept and i hope it goes over well, to me i dont care if a few people wanna bash the idea, to me its hot and ill buy it.
03 May 08
5:40 pm
the guys that will be used will probably not be 100% gay but if there bisexual, i think its hot,
im gay and i love straight porn and the fact that i can see some of the hottest men in gay porn doing ladies gets my cock rock hard
03 May 08
5:44 pm
i have worked in straight porn with ricky along time ago when he owned hh studios, and i support this project 100% if a few people here and there wanna bitch go ahead nobody really gives a shit, its a business and a new audience and i have to say there are some really close minded people in here, and some really cool people as well,
its like everything else if you dont like it dont buy it, if you do like it than get it,
the fact someone is trying something new is a huge step forward in the business and speaking from an industry standpoint its going to be huge, if it started tis much controversy in the blogs its gonna sell
03 May 08
5:47 pm
i think the idea is hot maybe not to most gay men but the straight, bi, and fetish market will definitly love it
03 May 08
5:49 pm
well ricky always said he was bi so for him to make a venture back into the straight market is not a surprise i personally love his straight work it was very unique and he hasnt released anything straight in over a year so its long overdue
03 May 08
5:53 pm
to me this sounds like rss is just trying to help him launch his own line of films i dont think rss is really shooting them, that studio has a habit of helping models like jake deckard and colin o neal get projects off the ground and i know ricky is very loyal and probably chose the straight line so he wouldnt compete with rss out of respect,
either way im glad to see him get another studio off the ground his last studio not only produced porn but they had a huge music label that had over 15 labels and a really kick ass clothing line
he is quite the serial entrepreneur.
i hope it works out for him, and i cant wait to see the final project
03 May 08
5:55 pm
i think its a good idea, i really want to see the films.
there gonna be hot.
03 May 08
5:57 pm
if ricky wants to launch a straight line i dont see what the issue is the problem this is america and he can do whatever he pleases. and i for one will buy anything he is associated with because anything he touches is top quality.
fuck the haters if they dont like it.
03 May 08
5:59 pm
i want to see this, i think the concept is really cool, i would definitely buy, watch, and get off to this.
03 May 08
7:02 pm
Most nauseating idea ever. Hardly a great leap forward, but rather a huge step back.
As if we needed even more straight porn.
Buh bye RSS.
03 May 08
9:10 pm
My simplest of statements is that I am saddened to see people in the gay community no longer appear to be the segregated without rights, so they now stand with rights and have become the segregators. It is scary to see the gay community do the same to other people what they detested being done to them. It hurts. What was the purpose of the fight for rights?
My full unload would be this:
Flash me back to gay rights days as I see the same statements being made toward bisexual men that were being stated towards the gay community. How is it right to be said to someone else on any level? Gay rights for people to be who they are sexually without others trying to press on them that they do not fit the mold or standard. Now gay men making statements that another sexual group does not fit the mold and that if they do something sexually then they are truly not “accepted”? To see statements of “disowning” a gay man because they do not act within the percieved norm, plain and simply “WOW”. Is the foundation of the gay community that frail that the rights once fought for cannot have room to support others? The gay community should be the place of acceptance and set the standard of acceptance. Hasn’t there been enough of this attitude in the fight for rights already? Why do we have to see it again?
Intriguing how its stated the studio format will never be enough to make people think about their sexuality or impact their thoughts on the segments between gay, bi, and straight. The reality is the blog is discussing exactly that issue in the post. It seems just the mention of such a studio has put everything under scrutiny.
Porn making a political statement, now that is an interesting concept. You know it is important if it creates such strength in opinion and controversy. Almost looks like old gay demonstration debates with people having to justify how they feel sexually and other people stating they are not really who they say they are if they act a certain way sexually. Isn’t this what the gay community fought against so hard? God forbid we add another sexual group to the mix. Reality is that it shouldn’t matter who they are sexually.
It is good to see it all being discussed because obviously there are issues. People need their horizons broadened. Too often we get laxed on what has been achieved and start to look at it with blinders on. We often get complacent and don’t realize we lost site of our original purpose in our achievement and have become the closed minded people we once fought against. Once again people have gone back to their old segregated ways. Gay freedom was built to break barriers and not to create them again for another group of people. Wasn’t the whole “you are confused” issue the crux issue of the gay demonstrations? Wasn’t the point to destroy labels? Wasn’t the point equal rights for everyone? Now gay men (of all people) are saying another group of sexual people are confused and don’t want to grant them a place in their world. What do the gay men state they want to do? It seems they simply segregrate them out and tell them they are not welcome since they don’t fit in either category. What was the point of fighting for rights?
Very interesting read to see how people are psychologically set up. Sad to read to see how far the community has gone backward to what they fought so hard to break down. It feels like such a big step backward. It simply hurts. Full circle. The opressed now the opressor. Makes the gay rights sought for seem so futile. Makes the community seem so hollow. Was it all just words or was the fight for rights something that was believed?
03 May 08
9:13 pm
Ricky You are brilliant. I just read your blog about your new venture. I am so fuckin’ proud of you. I take a lot of beef to for being supposedly gay for pay, so I know how you feel. You are one of the smartest and most talented people I know and I’m glad to hear that Raging is on board for this innovative concept. I have no doubt in my mind that you will change the whole landscape of porn and connect the bridge.
You are gonna make history with this and I’m wishing you all the best man. Go get em’ kid.
03 May 08
9:19 pm
i love how a few people here think they speak for the masses
saying nobody will buy this, this is gonna sell probably more than any other straight films on the market, we fail to realize that the straight market is way larger than the gay market when it comes to porn and this is pretty intensive reality porn its gonna sell,
besides most of the people here who are talking shit dont buy porn they get off to the free previews,
and wouldnt be interested in straight porn anyways, but this will definitly be fun to watch.
and if the fact of men and women having sex grosses you out its ok your gay remember, but to alot of people what we do is offensive,
i hope the endevor is a huge success.
03 May 08
9:20 pm
good post mr n
and i hope ricky rocks this line out, he is a fucken superstar in both the gay and straight market
nobody has ever pulled that off ever.
so expect big things from him
03 May 08
9:21 pm
i love the idea
03 May 08
9:52 pm
I agree with mr n about feeling like a flashback. To Ricky, I simply apologize. Be bisexual and continue with what you are doing. Obviously our gay community needs a reminder of what rights we fough so hard to gain. We need a controversy. I really do hope the gay community supports this venture.
Interesting to read this blog as well as ATKOL blog and see the comments. I grew sad as I continued. Seeing gay men throw negative words of that nature around so freely. I felt like I was watching the religious right tell me how unacceptable I was again or how my idea of sexuality was not normal and that I was evil. It began to hit too close to home.
What did we fight for if not sexual freedom, sexual expression, and freedom to be who we are without judgement? I don’t care what the reasons are for not watching a video, but bash people? Guys, why? We are supposed to be the epitomy of acceptance.
Obviously Raging Stallion needs to continue. How does a bi studio taint a gay studio if they are only providing a home of acceptance? It represents everything we sought in gay rights for sexual freedom. If they move on to straight, then one entity represents everything. You don’t have to buy the gay or straight videos if your gay, you just buy the gay videos.
Why disown people? I don’t understand. Its not the way of the gay community. We push acceptance, we flaunt acceptance, we flaunt diversity, we flaunt our sexuality, and we demand the world accept it. Another group comes in a little different, well then we need to accept it and throw it in the world’s face. Don’t get the video, but please, don’t hate on people. We have come too far. Its been too long of a road to start over again. I am too old to have to do this over again damn it!!!
03 May 08
11:36 pm
I’m curious about why some gay men watch staright porn, and why they think it’s hot. I have no desire to watch the straight stuff at all.
03 May 08
11:37 pm
I meant “straight porn”, sorry. lol
04 May 08
12:34 am
I’m gay and I watch straight porn because the guys are masculine I love watching straight men doing what they love alot of men in gay porn look the part until they open their mouth
I was a huge fan of rickys old studio because the guys were so real and hardcore
alot of studios try to advertise straight boys first time and trying to portray queeny little twinks as straight and its garbage
here you have a concept stating were using gay and bi guys and there doing women
that is really hot and not portraying any bs to its fans
I love it
04 May 08
12:35 am
I love the idea
04 May 08
12:40 am
most of guys on this thread are just one guy posting over and over again.
04 May 08
1:49 am
“I’m gay and I watch straight porn because the guys are masculine”
Um, gay men are not masculine then? I have to disgree with that, sorry. There are plenty of masculine gay men out there, even in gay porn.
04 May 08
4:58 am
“here you have a concept stating were using gay and bi guys and there doing women
that is really hot and not portraying any bs to its fans
I love it”
You honestly think there will be any actual “straight for pay” action, it’s just going to be bi guys who have previously done gay porn “straight for pay” is all just a gimmick.
04 May 08
6:10 pm
could be a gimmick but could be real.
Playgirl photographs a lot of gay guys and portrays them as straight. Our gay guys are already portraying straight for pay.
Straight guys doing gay porn aren’t all of a sudden bi.
If a gay guy does a women it doesn’t mean he is bi. He probably goes back home and has sex with his boyfriend to reset himself just like a straight guy probably runs back to his woman to reset.
Straight guys come on our side, so why can’t our gay guys get money the same way. Its commerce. More money for the gay boys and kudos to them if they can work it and make it on that side of the industry.
05 May 08
5:13 am
Just what we need another straight guy ruining things in the industry.Ricky Sins is not even that good .A guy that first went to straight porn first and then decides to do gay porn is suspect to me , oh thats right he doesn’t get the money and the attention in straight porn.Was Brodie Sinclair right all along? to gay men that defends this shit needs to be kicked in the throat.How many straight guys want gay action in their porn? none! remember we are still thought as disgusting second class perverts in the mainstream,gay men can not kiss in public with out being gawked at.
05 May 08
7:42 am
anyone else find it suspect that there was a flood of single-sentence, positive comments all in the span of 15 minutes on the third of May?
05 May 08
8:02 am
yeah… everybody suspects everybody, that makes for a wonderful world … Its not a matter of defending but there is definitely no reason to be violent about it. Just don’t buy it. Your assuming something about somebody before they are given a chance to prove themselves. Give the guy a chance.
Maybe its the attitudes that make us second class because we obviously haven’t stepped above anything with violent attitudes. Distrust isn’t going to raise us to any level of stature. The straight couples get gawked at for kissing too, because mainstream doesn’t really accept any kissing in public or any public displays of affection.
A lot of people negated the fetish porn that is so big in the market now. Everybody has a fetish. Its sexual freedom. If it works it works. Somebody likes it, they buy it. You don’t have to. I do think its supposed to be gay or bi guys doing straight action so I don’t think they will have gay action in their porn unless they do bi, but then that is bi and not gay.
Raging Stallion does a great deal of work for charities in California such as AIDs and cancer benefits. They seem to be decent folk. If they get more money and continue to help us with their charities, then I am happy.
05 May 08
8:16 am
and we can’t even seem to get along with each other in our own gay and LGBT community so how do we expect others to take us seriously or respect us. Saw a gay guy bar “suggest” a group of lesbians find another bar just the other night. Pressuring them out. We don’t even accept our own. We always seem to find some reason to bash somebody or distrust someone that might be trying to do some good.
05 May 08
2:31 pm
Raging Stallion and Ricky Sins is doing some good? give me a fucking break. This is another ploy from some people in the gay community to expose their internalized homophobia.Its enough that we have gay for pay actors doing it in the industry,and we eat it up.It all goes back to self-love and accepting ourselves and embracing our differences and if we did that it would be beautiful thing.when we continue to not take pride in our community and ourselves and look for acceptance and approval from straight people then we are taking two steps back.I agree don’t buy it and I encourage every self-respecting gay man put your dollars somewhere else ,maybe something useful.
05 May 08
2:52 pm
I don’t get all these arguments that by making gay men pretend to be straight, we’re somehow moving the gay community forward.
This is not only going to repulse the gay viewers but you know that ALL the Christians who hate us are going to hold these videos up and say “SEE!!! THEY ENJOY SEX WITH WOMEN!!! IT’S JUST A CHOICE!!! THEY’RE LYING WHEN THEY SAY THEY DON’T WANT TO HAVE SEX WITH WOMEN!!” They’re going to use this porn as proof that we can choose to be straight if we want.
Just like all the ex-gays are used as weapons against the gay community, this is going to be used the same way.
Saying this is going to do anything but damage the community is stupid and wrong. And it’s not going to sell. Leave it to a bisexual to fuck up even gay porn. Hope he goes broke.
05 May 08
10:01 pm
I hope this fails and bankrupts the company. Leave it to a bi guy to ruin gay porn.
05 May 08
11:05 pm
wow. like I said way back. I guess the gay rights movement did nothing for acceptance of sexual preferences and sexual freedoms.
These comments people make against other gay, bi, or straight people are really sad. I am too old to fight these old statements we already fought a long time ago.
I spent the past couple of days looking up Ricky. Fined by the government for don’t ask don’t tell. No wonder he was in straight porn first. Comes out and loses friends and family, so now people bash him for coming out. His story sounds very similar to gay men I know. He gets bashed from the straight side for his gay tendencies and gets bashed from gay people for his straight tendencies. Now there is nothing in there showing he is out to get us in any way. Looks like a person trying to find a place and instead coming up against two stubborn minded sides (the straight side and the gay side) both apparently just as condemning and judgemental.
So glad I fought for gay rights if this is what we have become (all sarcasm intended). Again like I said before. I fell all these years of fought after rights are wasted if this is what we have become. Sad, very sad.
05 May 08
11:24 pm
I really don’t think its looking to the straight community for acceptance when we are looking to the gay community to be human and accepting.
We are looking for acceptance among the gay community because it isn’t the straight community bashing the bisexuals doing films, it is gay people.
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Internalized homophobia? Whatever. Homophobic of my gayness… wow!!! my friends would laugh at that one. Takes more security to be who you are and not feel threatened because a bi guy has gay and bi guys doing girls.
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If the christians are looking at us in porn movies, then hallelujah, their watching porn … christians watchin porn so they can make a judgement against us. That is progress. Let them watch and let them comment.
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Bisexuals messing up gay porn? LOL!!! It looks like the gay people are rejecting the gay porn because gay guys and bisexuals are doing girls on film (not in their real life, but on film).
06 May 08
3:13 am
Like I said earlier all self respecting gay men spend your money on something useful.To the person who said that straight people don’t bash bi’s in the industry needs to wake up.the ones that make bi porn are mostly gay owned studios.So you don’t think that gays are not looking for acceptance from breederville?then explain to me that why some gay men have to be straight acting? why is there gay panic? ,men and women don’t come out until they’re middle age ,gay kids committing suicide at such a high rate,and increasing homicides? it all goes back to self love and acceptance.defending gay for pay ,straight for pay whatever is stupid.remember stone wall? I don’t recall bisexuals fighting for our sexual freedom. I don’t recall bisexuals inventing safe sex when hiv and aids nearly destroyed us in the late 70’s to 80’s when everybody turned there back to us.I don’t recall bisexuals overturning our supposibly mental disorder.Gay men did all this,gay men paved the way,bisexuals just fell into place.
06 May 08
12:55 pm
There are a few things here that are getting to me.
1) gay men growing up often have to have sex with women to pretend they’re straight. Of course we did it but it was always demeaning and degrading and it was just done to prove to other people and ourselves that we weren’t “fags.” Seeing out gay men now doing this doesn’t make me feel like we’ve come a long way, baby, it makes me feel kinda dirty.
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2) bisexuals are always going on about how everyone is really bisexual and WE are the ones who are the liars. Sorry, but most people are either gay or bisexual. All this garbage about tearing down “walls” between gay and straight people is ridiculous. Gay people won’t want women in their porn, straight people don’t want gay people in theirs.
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3) the dude who keeps going on about gay rights isn’t making any sense. We fought for gay rights so we could stop being thrown scraps and actually have things that were our own. Gay porn was the first thing we found that was ours. Now there’s some bi guy trying to take THAT away from us too.
06 May 08
10:52 pm
Having left the ‘gay community’ a while ago, I see that it still has a great many strident, uptight people who go into hysterics over someone not toeing the ideological line. It’s a _line_ of videos. No one’s ‘taking away your porn’. Go twirl your rainbow flags or something. I think it’s a hot concept and RSS will likely gain a customer here.
06 May 08
10:58 pm
ok, so it appeals to those anti-gay gay guys.
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There’s your market, I guess.
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Unable to live out themselves, they get turned on watching other gay guys shill for the breeders.
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hot.
06 May 08
11:47 pm
There were bi guys fighting for gay rights because they still wanted to have sex with guys without judgement. They wer just thrown in to the gay label because the straight side did not accept them anymore. And you are right that it goes back to self love and acceptance where being proud to be a gay man is all you need to stand on your own two feet despite what the world thinks. The bi guys deserve the same right and respect.
As far as AIDs in teh 70s and 80s it wasn’t gay guys that invented safe sex either. There were straight people involved as well especially since the discovery was in California relative to a catscratch incident which is a similar strain.
Gay guys doing women for video does not demean gay people. It is equal opportunity to make cash flow and support themselves. Gay porn can’t always pay the bills for those guys so a little extra cash so they can make it easier is gay. Its not changing who they are sexually.
Its not that it appeals to anti-gay guys it is simply that the gay community is losing track of its ability to accept people and is starting to get arrogant and self-centered. I stick with the gay community with people that are respectful of others. I do avoid the arrogance and self-centered side of the community because they really don’t care about anyone except themselves. Selfishness is not community. Selfishness is a party of one. We need to learn to live with other people.
07 May 08
12:12 am
and I have never understood gay men bashing lesbians either. They were definitely part of our gay rights movement. Rather than accepting we seem to exclude groups more and more.
07 May 08
12:22 am
redbull=troll
07 May 08
7:06 am
Somebody above said gay men could be masculine- probably he was referring to muscled dudes who lisps like Steve Cruz when he had a dialogue in “Ink Storm”. Really now, are muscled guy who lisp (or swish for that mater) even sexy- or yucky?
I really hate the politicalization of gay sex (It’s self-hatred to desire sex with straight men) because even simple desires are politicized to the point where even the yucky ones are accepted as sexy. Isn’t it self-hatred to falsify one’s desires just to toe a political line? Aren’t you surprised why suddenly all these straight boy gayp[rn websites are suddenly exploding while the mainstream DVD’s are hurting? It’;s because most gay men won’t permit their desires to be dictated by politics anymore. ey are turning out to be far more numerous & more economically well-off than the politicized gays. All the major companies are recognizing that- haven’t you seen that all the new gayporn exclusives are straight boys from the online websites? Look at the exclusives of Falcon, Sx, Jetset, Hothouse,etc. Every company is now recognizing that the majority of the gays are rising above the politics & are saying they love straight men. Are you surprised RSS is getting the drift?
07 May 08
7:15 am
Everybody loves to check the quality of the grocery they buy, why should they permit the dilution of the masculinity of the guy whose penis they’ll put into their mouths? They like to buy true Louis Vitton bags, why should they have to go to bed with a quasi-man if their genitals are screaming for a real straight man?
No, politics has no place in the sexual desires of the modern gay man.
07 May 08
7:23 am
Of course Brodie was right.Since he fell off with RSS, he did 20 online video clips worth $5000 per while Ricky did three at RSS at $2000 (?) per. He was included in all the lists for Top 10 in Male Erotica for 2007. Ricky Sinz was nowhere in those lists. That just goes to show how toxic the policy of RSS with their “No Straight” policy- iit inadvertedly boosted Brodie in a market which put premium on straight men.
Get this, people, the GAYS HAVE CHANGED WHILE SOME DINOSAURS STUCK WITH THEIR SELF-DELUDING POLITICS. A bad month Sean Cody has 100000 subscribers per month while a RSS hit can only hope max 30000 per year, if not on entire run.
07 May 08
7:32 am
RSS shouldn’t only continue with this new line but drop altogether its supposed masculine men who lisp
07 May 08
7:44 am
Ricky Sinz may be fencesitting, but my advice- do a Brodie. Jason McCain, a straight porn star who tried gayporn, followed the usual advice to admit he’s bi for commercial purposes thinking the old line was still operative among gays. He’s not here anymore, he was forgotten after a few films, at the time when all these straight boy gayporn websites were appearing. The old dinosaurs are too few to justify such non-sense promo gimmicks
Brodie & all the new studio exclusives are the proof.s..
07 May 08
8:41 am
My apologies for the typographical errors, this topic really excited me so much I just pounded the keys as I went along. I thought it was time to be blunt because everybody got used to tiptoeing around issues when the realities were staring everybody at the face.
Suggestion: I really think the RSS kind of movies are the ones that fit straight men having gay sex(I really never bought their NO Straight policy anyway- I knew Shane Rollins was straight all along). I just hate they had to include pseudo-masculine men. If they wanted to be pro-gay, there are many muscled gay men who don’t lisp or swish- why not them?
Or better, why not do a movie with a label ALL THE ACTORS ARE STRAIGHT. Market that to the NEW MODERN GAYS (because we’ve been shying away, as proved by declining sales, & shifting online) & see if ever you’ll be content with 30000 sales.
Forget the dinosaurs, they’re old noise. Every delusion has to end sometime
07 May 08
9:09 am
Btw nice to know High Octane is now under RSS. I love those straight Hungarian guys of Herve Bodilis. I got off on them when I dropped RSS after Shane Rolins left (due to birth of his baby)
07 May 08
12:17 pm
charlie dick what a dick
07 May 08
9:47 pm
Charlie Dick, you are pathetic as hell. There are plenty of true, masculine gay men out there (in real life and porn), but you’re so obsessed with straight guys that you pay no attention to gay men at all. Why is that? If you think gay men are not “real men”, then you must not see yourself as a “real man” either, since you are gay right? Isn’t there a saying that what you hate in others is what you really hate about yourself?
And I know this may be a shocker to you, but most of those straight guys in gay porn ARE NOT STRAIGHT! Oops, sorry to ruin your fantasy. Now I’m sure all those manly “straight” men you were drooling over are now faggy lisping queens in your eyes.
07 May 08
11:04 pm
Who else besides Charlie actually believes that the men billed as “straight” in gay porns really are heterosexual when they’re having sex with other men, even if it is just in porn?
08 May 08
12:28 am
what the fuck is Charlie Dick on about? What did any of that have to do with this topic?
08 May 08
3:50 am
The boom in online “straight boy” gayporn is a rebellion to the old formula of “no straight” porn (the old mainstream DVD’S), & they’re proving they got far more numbers & money. That’s a slap to the politics which strangled the growth of mainstream porn. It’s obvious that just as the Conservative politics of Bush is being swept by the Democratic tide, gayporn is being transformed into more enjoyable gayporn again. Straight men are for women & gays, & gays love attractive men, even straight men, period. Swishy Gay-Lispy gay only porn? Yuck, only for the desperate! It’s not self-hating to accept you don’t have to be desperate & just want to enjoy fantasizing real sex with a real man. An ugly man isn’t forced to love another ugly individual, why should a gay be brainwashed into loving only a gay man, much less the swishy kind. You don’t settle for a fake Louis Vitton for a bag, why settle for blowing a quasi-man when you wanted the real thing? What is obvious then, a new paradigm shift is needed, not the old one which thrived on yucky delusions.
Quiz:
1. How many are the subscribers for RSS’ Rear Stable.com?
2. What websites featuring purely gay actors doing gay sex is even viable?
3. Try starting a website featuring the gay exclusives of studios & see how it will fare (& try figuring out why gay amateur models are not big stars online)
4. Who are the latest exclusives/stars of major companies- Nash Lawler, Hayden Stephens, Noah Driver,Dillon Wood, Justin Riddick, Aaron James, Dakota, etc. Among their batch, how many is even purely gay/ even openly bisexual?
5. Why are the biggest escorts for moneyed gays straight & only the gays of lower economic scale seem to patronize gay escorts (ask Erik Rhodes)? Even wonder why the big straight porn actors are suddenly working the gay market? Definitely, it’s not for the dinosaurs who I’m pretty sure belong to the lower economic strata & thrive on free Rapidshare downloads for their porn anyway & don’t have the money to buy that DVD, much less to hire Jack Venice, Johnny Castle, Hakan or Julian, or even Brodie, so they are left with no option but to settle with the free or cheaper swishies & lispies
6. Is gentrification the cause of closure of gay landmarks as described above or just the lost patronage by the modernizing gays who refuse to live the delusions foisted on them by political junkies- do they really have to lisp & swish also to belong? Do they have to go along & pretend attracted to an atrociously muscled queen who speak like ____ though they nearly wanna puke, just to be accepted?
The ground has shifted while every dinosaur was consumed by their delusions. Now wake up to the new modern gay life…
08 May 08
3:54 am
Brian asked “what the fuck is Charlie Dick on about? What did any of that have to do with this topic?”
So just you know how the world shifted while tweedled your thumbs…
& that Straight for Pay line should ultimately reflect current realities if it wants to survive…
08 May 08
4:35 am
lazyboy wrote “Isn’t there a saying that what you hate in others is what you really hate about yourself?”
I read this in the 90’s yet & it’s the toxic mantra of the politics that has been shaping the world of delusions of the dinosaurs.
No it’s not self-hatred to accept your desires & not tailor it to politics. It’s delusion when you falsify your desires just to toe a particular ideological line. It’s not self-hatred to live free from delusions. It’s called self-respect, self-love…
08 May 08
8:25 pm
Oh my god, I can’t stop laughing at Charlie Dick!!! Too funny. Whatever Charlie, tell your sad little self what you want to hear. You’re clearly the delusional one who hasn’t had a good real fuck in a very long time. Probably too busy blowing “straight” men in bathroom stalls.
10 May 08
1:08 am
theone
05 May 08
5:13 am
Just what we need another straight guy ruining things in the industry.Ricky Sins is not even that good .A guy that first went to straight porn first and then decides to do gay porn is suspect to me , oh thats right he doesn’t get the money and the attention in straight porn.Was Brodie Sinclair right all along? to gay men that defends this shit needs to be kicked in the throat.How many straight guys want gay action in their porn? none! remember we are still thought as disgusting second class perverts in the mainstream,gay men can not kiss in public with out being gawked at.
this is a very interesting statement but unfortunately your facts are very wrong i was doing gay porn long before straight
for example
mission sexploitation
street dick1
whack it world
go play with yourself
dont ask dont tell dont stop
diamond back pictures website
thank onto an ownership position of a straight studio which i sold off
and if you believe the words of brodie sinclair than youre a bigger fool than he is
he has violated his contracts with multiple studios
randy blue, cocky boys, and there were 3 more that i cant name off hand
and for me not to get the money in straight porn homeboy i made chicago magazine special money edition
heres the link for thathttp://www.chicagomag.com/Chicago-Magazine/April-2007/Money-in-Chicago-2007/Who-Makes-What-Salaries-List/
and im sorry if you feel like you are treated as a second class citizen
maybe you should come here tio boystown in chicago and well make you feel right at home
just dont try kicking anyone in the throat we dont tolerate those kind of shenanigans here
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10 May 08
1:19 am
sorry about that
http://www.chicagomag.com/Chicago-Magazine/April-2007/Money-in-Chicago-2007/Who-Makes-What-Salaries-List/
but i must say even though some people are not happy with this idea, im glad to see some very intelligent discussions on here and some good open ended debates
what it breaks down to is personal choice and freedom of expression
if i wanna do gay porn and get my ass fucked by an 11 inch dick i can
if i want to slay some pussy on film i can do that to.
when it comes to content being produced it is either something you like or something you dont
if people like straight porn than they will buy it
if they dont like it they wont buy it
and the way i look at it is for the people that enjoy it im glad to bring it to you
and for those that dont like it im sorry ill try different things down the road
but for now this is the project
nobody is trying to take the gay porn away from the gay community
nobody is mixing gay content in this film
and after reading a few posts mr charlie dick
Of course Brodie was right.Since he fell off with RSS, he did 20 online video clips worth $5000 per while Ricky did three at RSS at $2000 (?) per. He was included in all the lists for Top 10 in Male Erotica for 2007. Ricky Sinz was nowhere in those lists. That just goes to show how toxic the policy of RSS with their “No Straight” policy- iit inadvertedly boosted Brodie in a market which put premium on straight men.
Get this, people, the GAYS HAVE CHANGED WHILE SOME DINOSAURS STUCK WITH THEIR SELF-DELUDING POLITICS. A bad month Sean Cody has 100000 subscribers per month while a RSS hit can only hope max 30000 per year, if not on entire run.
dude your whacked that is not my scene rate and that is not brodies scene rate either
those are not accurate numbers
and its obvious to me you work for a competing studio
10 May 08
2:19 am
This is not only going to repulse the gay viewers but you know that ALL the Christians who hate us are going to hold these videos up and say “SEE!!! THEY ENJOY SEX WITH WOMEN!!! IT’S JUST A CHOICE!!! THEY’RE LYING WHEN THEY SAY THEY DON’T WANT TO HAVE SEX WITH WOMEN!!” They’re going to use this porn as proof that we can choose to be straight if we want.
this is an interesting comment
i dont usually touch religion but i do occasionally get assaulted by the religious right myself usually by email very rarely in person but ill throw in my 2 cents.
any christian who harasses or assaults anyone is not christian but a hypocrite
i remember during the gay pride parade when i was on the hydrate float here in chicago seeing a man holding a poster that said death to all fags
is that right of him fuck no did my christian upbringing stop me from whipping a bottle at him fuck no and picking up a gay pride flag and waving it high above my head
i have learned in my life that not everyone is going to accept me for who i am or what i am
and i see alot of posts about acceptance and what if they say this
who cares what people say if someone doesnt accept your lifestyle than oh well
the army didnt accept it, my friends didnt accept it,
my family doesnt accept it but did that stop me from being me
hell no
this is my life the only opinion about my lifestyle that matters is mine,
fuck the religious right bible pumping heathens who condemn us, if they have the nuts to bash you ask them how many little boys the father mc feelmes of the world have been touching, and if there holding up my video ask them why there watching it, and watch them turn red
be yourself life is too short to hate and complain,
and bitch and moan, we all have different views on different topics and that is cool sure we dont always agree but that is what makes life interesting
and this is a good one to
qwerty
05 May 08
10:01 pm
I hope this fails and bankrupts the company. Leave it to a bi guy to ruin gay porn.
wishful thinking but not gonna happen
and leave it to a bi guy to ruin gay porn
i didnt know i had so much influence over the entire gay market damn im good lol
j/p
ill just ruin your porn nobody elses lol just yours
this is a wild blog i love it
10 May 08
6:25 pm
my original blog had an incident but its back up
ill keep everyone up to date
on my blog and on this blog as well
as to the progress of this project
hope everyone is well
and queermenow
keep up the good workhttp://rickysinz.wordpress.com/2008/05/09/ricky-sinz-to-launch-new-straight-for-pay-line/#comment-382
10 May 08
6:27 pm
http://rickysinz.wordpress.com/2008/05/09/ricky-sinz-to-launch-new-straight-for-pay-line/#comment-382
12 May 08
5:02 pm
What a disgusting idea. Keep the fucking tuna fish out of my face.
13 May 08
2:35 am
Way to be a misogynist Chasibule. These videos sound hot!
13 May 08
2:38 am
Ricky You’re hot! Ignore the haters. Also you might wanna fix the link to your blog.
24 May 08
10:07 pm
there have been issues with cutting and pasting on this blog sometimes, but people know my site is www.rickysinzxxx.com and if they want to check the blogs there is a link there.
and i dont mind haters,
everyone has a right to their own opinion and tastes,
i fought to defend that right in the army and now ill take advantage to exercise that right in new productions and ideas, everyone has different fantasies, and for alot of people this suits them and some people dont like it,
and i respect all peoples comfort levels,
one thing that always motivated me was people telling me that i cant do something or it wont work, it can have a powerful driving force on someone,
i support anyone who is willing to try new things or anything as long as it doesnt hurt somebody.
if it doesnt workout it doesnt work out, if its a success ill keep pushing and trying new things.
down the road i would love to launch an all gay line and an all gay fetish line, i just dont have the time to make all these things happen at once.
ill just do things one step at a time for now.
but its iml time here in chicago and i have alot of running around to do, if anyone is coming into chicago for any of the events out here have fun and safe travels.
26 May 08
2:32 am
This can serve as a lesson to everyone. Don’t expect loyalty from just anyone, particularly porn actors whose job it is to be motivated by the almighty dollar. As much as I love some hot gay porn, I have to admit that this is where porn can pose a problem. It’s human instinct I think to become attached where sexuality is concerned. But this problematic when dealing with porn because no commitments were made either way - from view to actor or vice versa.
26 May 08
2:32 am
*is* problematic when dealing with porn.
26 May 08
2:34 am
yikes..meant to say from *viewer*.
08 Jun 08
8:25 am
DeWaynce asks..
“Why the Balkanazation in Sexuaklity”
You sound like a fraud DeWayne like all people that push the idea of human sexual fluidity, meanwhile sticking to a monsexual label themselves. How many times you have sex with with men or how much you enjoy watching men is irrelevant. Do you consider your experience with and about women to have been an expression of your sexuality or not. If yes, then yes, that is a bisexual. Like the saying goes, “you just had to meet the *right* woman”. The irony about the fluidity theory is that the “gay” men saying this end up shooting themselves in the foot and are hypocrites if they have ever criticized the Christian right or similar. If sexuality if fluid, then the Christian right or similar are in no way unfair, bigoted or hateful in expecting “gay” men follow a script of find a woman…get married. If not, stop saying this bullshit. Sexuality isn’t fluid. Some are gay, some are bisexual, some are straight. Universal “human sexuality” is a myth.
08 Jun 08
8:27 am
Mr n asks..
“What was the purpose of the fight for rights”?
It sure as hell shouldn’t have been to push all this sexual fluidity shit. It should have been, as it is now, to secure homosexual
*legal* rights. That’s it. Some people seem to be on another agenda - persuading people to recognize their “human sexuality”. All this talk about dropping labels and just be “sexual” makes me ask the same question. Was it all really believed? Or was “gay” all along just a social construct having no REAL meaning, but instead, political expedience?
08 Jun 08
8:36 am
Josiah says…
“Straight guys come on our side”
Sadly.
“More money for the gay boys and kudos to them if they can work it and make it on that side of the industry”.
While they are busy making it on that side, that means less gay porn being made. Beside this, I agree with the other poster. This is a step back, not forward. Barring some one-time experimentation or coercion, gay men having sex with women, is sad and pathetic really.
“We are looking for acceptance among the gay community because it isn’t the straight community bashing the bisexuals doing films, it is gay people”.
Give me a break. Why would straight people say something about gay men getting paid to have sex with women. It’s the gay men that end up getting bad rep, the straight people gain by having yet one more testament to how desirable heterosexuality really is. You can say “for pay” all you want, but none of us are seeing the money being swapped. And this bisexual stuff is not even the issue. The only reason bisexuality gets in the crossfire is because bisexuals or self-appointed bisexual defending gay men are taking offense at other gay men balking at heterosexuality. Imagine that - a gay man not wanting heterosexuality shoved down his throat or the impression that it’s standard for gay men to welcome heterosexuality into gay space, just because a minority of them do. So sad that people don’t understand. This is what we need - SPACE - not “acceptance”.
“Takes more security to be who you are and not feel threatened because a bi guy has gay and bi guys doing girls”.
It takes something, but not security. Like self-denial, for instance, that homosexual invisibility isn’t still a top priority of most people in this world. Gay people who think they have arrived and can now defend heterosexuality, as if it needs it, are laughable.
“The bi guys deserve the same right and respect”t.
Let’s get something clear. Straight people don’t need or are entitled to have homosexuals like heterosexuality. Gay people don’t need or are entitled to have heterosexuals like homosexuality. Bisexuals don’t need or are entitled to have straights like their homosexuality or gays to like their heterosexuality. Again, we all deserve SPACE to be with like people, not acceptance from different people.
“Gay guys doing women for video does not demean gay people. It is equal opportunity to make cash flow and support themselves”.
You’re wrong. It does demean. And seems to unnecessarily mix gay and straight sexuality. It makes more sense just to create a separate bisexual line, by and for bisexuals. Let the gay porn be by and for gays. Same for straight. This isn’t hard to understand.
“Selfishness is not community”.
Apparently, you have lost track that gay community doesn’t mean world community. Those in the “community” that would undermine the community’s preservation for the sake of inclusion are the ones to be avoided.
08 Jun 08
8:52 am
Charlie Dick says…
Isn’t it self-hatred to falsify one’s desires just to toe a political line?
If the content of your “true desires” is self-hatred, then the “political line” hasn’t shit to do with it.
12 Jun 08
1:50 am
IR8T, you have a right to your opinion. In my life, gay rights have been about granting rights to people to express them selves and be who they are as people. It has turned in to GLBT and not just G.
You may want space, but space can also be interpreted as selfishness. As gay people we have gained a lot and set a precedent for our rights. We need to use what we have been granted and show a little more tolerance towards others trying to achieve the same. We fought hard for what we have and others fought hard to help us get what we have (others being people that were straight, bi, and otherwise). When others help us, it is our responsibility to turn around and pass on the favor.
If we seek only space, then we are selfish with what we have been granted. Community is what we established as gay people a long time ago. We are bound together simply because we are gay and we share the same desire for freedom to express ourselves. I have not lost track of anything. The stepping stone of what whe have achieved has been layed solid in the ground and we stand strong with influence in this world. The market place recognizes us and flinches if they screw up against us. We should be willing to further influence acceptance with that power.
You may want space, but it is more like you are marking your territory than granting space. You want to own and you don’t want to share. That is your right, but I don’t think a majority share that attitude.
Many seek space, but many also seek acceptance. They want to be able to walk in to any store and not be judged. There is much in both. To break down walls and barriers creates the acceptance. It is to our benefit to break down the barriers that create sexuality as a stigma in any form that presents its self. It should not be a form of categorizing or judging. It is simply a form of expression.
The gay community is made up of many types of people, we are all gay, we all desire men. To require that everyone fit a certain mold within those desires is not right and is not a community. You can’t cram every gay man in to some mold and see if they have other thoughts or like to see certain things then they are no longer gay. That is the descrimination that was layed on us as gay people. We should never do the same to another and try to wall in what it means to be gay.
Making a different porn does not mean less gay porn. It means our guys can do more porn if they want in an area where they normally aren’t allowed because the straight studios don’t let them. Yes, the straight market descriminates. The porn industry isn’t the greatest money maker unless you are a star and it is short lived. More opportunities to make cash and to get money from another side of the market means they can produce more videos and stay in the industry longer. We retain our guys rather than losing them to other markets.
You can have your opinion but let others have theirs. You are not the definition of a gay man and their are too many kinds out there that make up our community. Don’t even try to tell us how we should think or live in order to be considered gay. That is what the straight community tried and they lost that battle. They did not change us and you are sure not going to change the gay demographic by saying that a gay person has to think a certain way or they are not gay.
12 Jun 08
2:23 am
Sorry, I got a bit irritated at the end there. You can think what you want IR8T, but grant others the chance to think how they want. Just because they have a different opinion doesn’t mean they are no longer gay.
18 Aug 08
5:35 pm
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19 Aug 08
5:27 am
I don’t think its a bad idea per say, its cool to see different variations of peoples sexuality. Its a bit weird seeing it all on a gay porn blog though isn’t it. I guess even gay porn blogs are trying to cater to all needs now, which is weird and not ideal for me personally. Some people might like this so I can’t really comment though.
13 Oct 08
3:11 am
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