I don’t understand where all these rumors about porn star Marc Dylan and racism came from or why. But somehow those rumors had become a heated discussion on one of my blog posts, where Marc Dylan himself replied:
You’re are implying something that is not true, I value everyone equally in terms of their humanness. So you can kindly Stop with your BS insinuations. Also, let me point out your flawed logic. Whom a person finds sexually attractive is not an indicator of there feelings towards the worth of the other person. People are allowed to have a type. What you said is the equivalent of calling a gay person sexist because he wouldn’t sleep with a woman.
Today Marc speaks out on this heated topic of Racial Preferences and Sexual Addiction on his personal blog. Marc with fellow porn stars Trenton Ducati, JP Richards, Billy Santoro also discuss this issue on Twitter.
Marc Dylan – “My Opinion On Sexual Addiction and Racial Preferences In Porn”
Marc Dylan – “Doing A Scene With Someone Im Not Attracted To And The Life Lesson Behind The Answer”
+ More of MARC DYLAN
andrew says
John: In case your post above refers to me, I should tell you that I am a life long liberal democrat, am a union member and have participated in civil rights demonstrations. If we don’t criticize our own when we think they are wrong, should we really criticize others? I just strongly believe that PC has gone WAY too far.
Pierre says
@andrew.
http://hommemaker.com/2013/08/06/dear-gays-are-you-racist/
Thefan says
@marcomanuel, I seriously doubt paddy is racist or doesn’t like black guys. he is from London and of Irish heritage. Chances are he is not close minded. i would be shocked if he shared marc dylan’s views. I could be wrong but I doubt it.
Thefan says
@andrew, we are talking porn. . don’t you wonder why the mainstream studio pornstars are practically all white? don’t you think the lack of black pornstars is to do with ppl with Marc Dylan’s views?
andrew says
@Thefan: I think the reason that the great majority of porn stars are white is because that is what the consumers of porn like to watch. If the consumers of porn wanted to see more Black guys you can be sure that the porn Studios, who want to make money, would be showing more Black porn models. The profit motive always carries the day.
Keron says
That still wouldn’t be the case because most white porn stars have sexual preferences. Making it hard for black porn stars to have opportunities.
Anti White Supremacy says
Racism [white supremacy] is the local and global power system and dynamic, structured and maintained by persons who classify themselves as white (caucasian; european), whether consciously or subconsciously determined; which consists of patterns of perception, logic, symbol formation, thought, speech, action, and emotional response, as conducted, simultaneously in all areas of people activity (economics, education, entertainment, labor, law, politics, religion, sex, and war); for the ultimate purpose of white genetic survival and to prevent white genetic annihilation on Earth – a planet upon which the vast and overwhelming majority of people are classified as non-white by white skinned people, and all of the non-white people are genetically dominant (in terms of skin coloration) compared to the genetic recessive white skin people.
Thefan says
so whether its the pornstars, the producers or the consumers. there is obviously a racial bias very much at play. correct?
Lawless says
I have to agree with persa on this. Saying you don’t find black men attractive just because of there skin color does appear racist to me. Suppose you where blind, would his skin color honestly fucking matter then?
Its such a weak argument.
manu says
Racism is not synonymous with white supremacy, you can be racist no matter what colour/origin you are ( and most of the time get away with it because many don’t conceive that non-white people can be racist).
That being said, not being attracted to someone because of his physical features has (and those are linked to your ethnic origins ) is not racist at all as long as you respect him as a human being.
Being homosexual does not make you de facto attracted to ALL men, and whoever said that this was a wrong “learned bias” is an imbecile as I am sure he has his own bias too whether it’s race, physical attributes, age , disability, etc…
I disagree with Marc though on the “market driven” stance, I think it can be changed but the porn world is a bit segregationist already as the black sites are very often separate entities (and they produce great content, look up Taggaz , DawgpoundUSA or Blackmen . net )
You should also know- and I say that as someone who is into black guys – that LOTS of them are only into other black guys just like Marc is only into caucasians. They are not ashamed to specify it on their profile, it’s unfortunate but it’s not something you can change because you say it’s wrong.
As long as the reasons are not deep rooted hatred ( which Marc has not demonstrated at all ) and just sexual preferences, it’s not something that needs to be addressed from a “social justice” angle when you are speaking at an individual level.
Thefan says
@lawless, great point. One, I hope ppl with “preferences”, answer
manu says
Lawless I m guessing people who don t find black people attractive is not because of their skin colour only.
Some physical features are associated with your ethnic background, and for instance if you like people with “sad puppy eyes” or strong prominent noses , it s unlikely that you re going to find a chinese man attractive, so clearly it s not just “skin colour” that comes into play.
Even if people were all the same colour, there are very distinctive features in each ethnicity that enables you to say where they are from. Albino african people don’t look caucasian and tanned caucasian people don’t pass as african either.
Rihanna for instance is almost white skin-colour wise but you can still tell she’s a light-skinned”black” girl.
Ropes says
@manu, besides skin color what other physical features would make ppl not attracted to black ppl?
Cody Shiranai says
@Lawless: If you were blind, you wouldn’t find ANYTHING attractive based on visual appeal. You know… because you don’t sense anything visually. That’s not even an argument, it’s just stupid and trying do anything to demonize others’ choices and attractions is still WRONG.
I mean seriously, if that is the case, then NO GAY MAN EVER choose ever deny someone because they are a trannie, or a big hairy bear or any other reason. We’re here right now ogling human beings because they have muscles, but you would be revolted the moment they started putting other body types on here.
Attraction is has a lot of parts, but one of those is still VISUAL appeal. You can’t fight chemistry or personality-relating either, but that’s not even a strawman argument to have).
Cody Shiranai says
BTW– When White Men cut off their own race, that’s “being diverse”, but black men not being attracted to their own is racist self-hatred? Statements like that MIGHT be part of the reason for the so-called self-hatred, much like modern atheists who are really just fallen Christians who wanted nothing to associate them with the other Christians who they fall in such disgust with.
Something has to be wrong with them? Wow.
My point is proven. Utterly. Physician, heal thyself. Point that hate finger at your mirror, hunty’s.
Cody Shiranai says
Also, how are gay men racist for them where straight men who do think and feel the same way?
Gay men are shallow and superficial because that’s what men are, that’s what humans are. Not racist.
In fact, let’s just say the truth. This has nothing to do with racism and EVERYTHING to do with selfish misdirection. We want everyone to want everyone else so we can pretend that everyone is available to us. Anyone we personally desire, their own wishes and desires be damned. Humans are selfish, but Americans in particular thrive on putting every veiled excuse around that selfishness possible.
This isn’t “Marc Dylan is racist”, this is “I want Marc Dylan and there’s a reason I can’t have him, so I will make it about something else to hurt him”. A person can tell as many lies as they want, but that’s the broad truth. It’s not even about him, it’s about everyone we reject or like and how we choose to deal with that reality of rejection.
Jeff says
QMN, I advise that you shut down this thread immediately…no good is coming from it.
Jordy says
No one is forcing this guy or anyone else to fuck black guys. Just to be honest about their racist feelings. The last time I checked, black guys don’t all look the same. Would this guy fuck Austin Wilde?
Ropes says
@jordy, funny you mentioned austin Wilde, Connor Kline has the same condition as Marc Dylan but got fucked by Austin. when asked about it, he said austin is half black so he was okay with bottoming for him. can you believe that bs?
Tony says
Jody, in Austin Wilde’s mind, he thinks he white.
Tony says
Jeff, if you don’t like this tread or what’s being said, don’t read it. We need to have an open discussion on race and the entire United ‘States is now addressing race. As a gay black Latino male, I’ve found the mostly white gay community to be the most racist.
dissi says
… I don’t know, I guess this is what happens when we not look at each other as individuals. I’ve always tried to do that, even in my porn! I definitely have my “types,” but if I look at the photo or video in front of me and I have an erotic reaction, it’s because I find that guy hot. Ie. I’m not necessarily floored by all “gingers” but Seth Fornea… Daaamnn. And while, say, Johnny Venture might have all the elements of my type, he doesn’t really do anything for me. I think we fellas take our sexualities too seriously sometimes. We shouldn’t keep it completely separate, but we also shouldn’t tie it to other aspects of our psyches and belief systems.
pascal says
Featured and a little distressing this topic! What is certain is that by against the problem of racism in particular usa is still very active ….
Unnecessary for me to masturbate the brain to a sex party, I only like hot guys and no matter their skin color!
Life is too short to reduce such feelings of hate …
From South of France…
Tony says
I imagine, Marc Dylan and Connor Kline have used the N word to refer to black people. At least Miss Paula Deen was honest by saying, she used the word.
beef says
i think the question underlining this whole thresd is wheather or not MD will fuck a black guy. if he wont fuck a black guy because they are black then he is obviously racist.
andrew says
Whatever sex, age, race, nationality, type you are sexually attracted to, as long as they are over 18, ENJOY! Don’t be concerned about how the PC Police label you.
Ropes says
at the end of the day, no one should be forced to have sex with anyone they are not attracted to. just have the balls to admit your racist sensibilities.
BLACKjack says
GreGG Generally people who are not RACIST do not get on gay blogs and make RACIST sounding comments !!! NEWS FLASH YOUR A RACIST !!!
micky says
Ok I am black, live in the South, and know what real racism looks like. Let’s just acknowledge that there are varying degrees of racism. And I don’t think having less of a preference for a black guy is on par with the more prominent forms of racism in the US today (spitting on people, discrimination, vulgar name calling). And what if a black guy only prefers to date white guys? Does that make him a self-loathing racist against himself?! Where are we setting the bar here lol?
Jordy says
No one is saying that Marc Dylan should join the KKK. But the disconnect seems to lie in the people who believe that saying “I’m not into black guys” is racist versus a preference. If Marc would have said, I don’t have sex with guys with coarse hair. That’s not racist. Even though a a lot of black guys have coarse hair, not all black guys have coarse hair. He could have said, I don’t have sex with guys who live in Compton. A lot of black guys live in Compton, but not all black guys live in Compton so that’s not racist. The overall statement I don’t have sex with black guys is racist. Maybe not KKK racist, but it’s racist. And it’s okay if he feels that way, just be honest.
Ben Of Asia says
I hate to admit it but I definitely preffered 100% a white men or a latin guy with european ancestry, I think they were handsome, sexy and responsible. But that’s not make me racist to a black men as well as to a Asíans (Filipino) like me of malay and chinese origin. Is just that I’m more attracted to them. This is freedom right.
Luca says
Wow, a real object lesson in hate and jealousy, from gay men and none of it from Marc Dylan. @Pascal & Pierre, although I shouldn’t give you a thought, please enlighten us to the depths of hatred, racism and bigotry in France. I was in Paris when there were enormous anti-gay marriage demonstrations and I have NEVER seen anything similar except perhaps what we are seeing today in Russia. How do you treat your Muslim and Arab peoples? Your scum President Sarkozy simply deported, they way you did the Jews, the Roma peoples back to Romania. I readily admit the bigotry that my native Italy shows immigrants, but the French are the most racist, anti-semitic people in Europe. You are hateful and insecure and filled with jealousy, but being French you have absolutely no sense of shame. France desperately needs to get its own affairs in order before it lectures anyone. And Frenchmen are so unattractive. Marc, I tell you again, they are bitter and resentful. These are the ravings of men who couldn’t get laid to save their lives. Ignore the haters, Marc. I assure you, they are sitting home alone, jerking off to you.
Joe says
Finally moved by this discussion to make my first comment– so be forewarned. I think some people here have really gone off the deep end with their pseudo-sociology. Claiming to know what words Marc Dylan used throughout his entire lifetime? Which porn stars you “just know” are racist? Based on what? And by the way, guys, I’ve heard that word you’re so loath to say many times in porn, always used by black men.
Spewing nonsense about “white privilege” (because every white person was born rich, got everything they wished for, and were never rejected by someone they were attracted to) and the idea that every single person who lives within some imaginary borderline is a racist is bigoted and racist itself.
Stop looking at people as members of groups and stop taking every individual action as affronts to whatever group. It is amazing that gay rights is all about people being able to make decisions without society telling them what’s acceptable. Then we turn around and do the same to someone else. I guess that’s a sign of progress?
Ben Of Asia says
Anyway, that Marc Dylan isnt attractive for me although his white. I wasn’t sure if his a gay porn superstar. Using of “NEGRO” is prohibited in America?, but it only means black in Spanish c’mon. Here in the Philippines as a former SPANISH COLONY we often used it refering to a people with darker skin color but that didnt mean we discriminate. Why aren’t many asians in gay porn?First, because we’re more CONSERVATIVE than any other race out there. Second, Asians had a petite body compare to a muscular white guy. Third, we look much younger so when we paired to a white and black guys they seemed to be our daddys hahahaha!
Martin K says
Whoa! Great comment, Joe!!
Ropes says
@ joe, perhaps you should have resisted being moved by the discussion and stayed by the sidelines. I m not sure who you are referring to when talking about white priviledge. but you obviously don’t comprehend the meaning of the term. White priviledge refers to the set of societal privileges that white people are argued to benefit from beyond those commonly experienced by people of color in the same social, political, or economic spaces. you know, like the trayvon Martin tragedy, where George Zimmerman referred to him as a suspect and killed him even though he was innocent. trayvon wasn’t allowed to be an individual going about his business. he didn’t have WHITE PRIVILEDGE
The swede says
Joe. Ouch! truth (for you) must really hurt.
John says
This argument would be so much easier if all of us just admit we have some racial biases. I am in no way condoning it but it is so sickening the pathetic attempts people are making trying to fill better about themselves. You are who you are.
John says
I have no issue with anyone having racial preferences in determining who he would date. My issue strictly revolves around racial discrimination in employment. Since the porn industry is a business it should also have to follow the same EEOC and Fair Labor practices that any other company does. As a result a person should be paired to do a scene with another person as long as he is qualified.
OG1 says
I’ll resist presenting my analysis of the comments and replies and simply say, didn’t MD do a scene w Michael Lucas where he was urinated and spit on? So basically we (black men) are lower less attractive that spit and urine?! Damn that’s cold blooded MD. I hope I don’t run into this at xlsior. Sheesh!
pascal says
Luca Wouhaaaaaaa you have a fierce hatred against the France, maybe it is time or France has never fallen into the trap of mass destruction weapons in Iraq that never existed? Whatever!
You mix clearly totu in France ranging from gay marriage to fascism through the Arabs Congratulations … it’s great no matter what, the only thing clear is that you hate France! Good ago enough tourists like that.
Gay marriage has not been easy but we won there, which is not the case with you in all the states of the usa! Arabs have the same rights as the French original execpt for nationnal vote. The Jews there is only open history books to know the truth which is not your case. There is racism in France and in all countries but unfortunately nothing to do with the U.S. … I am ashamed of the behavior of reports by white to black people …. shame really
And you’re there or Italian football player …. are called monkeys would be better to laugh if it was not so serious!
Anti White Supremacy says
Why does the homosexual European/white community “expect” divine devotion to “their” quest for some vain, colgate-invisible shield, “white” ideal of rainbow marriage from the totality African [brown skined] communities in the face of that same white male sub-populace having abysmally failed to address systemic racism/prejudice and ostracism within its own populace group.
What really has the white homosexual populace done to support African causes? They have been silent on racial profiling and police brutuality. Would rather have hypocritical business establishments like tanning parlours all over its hood [why do you feel compelled to look like the people you so dislike?] than viable establishments by people of colour for people of colour but then when it is your issue up to bat, Viola!, you expect instant understanding and support. It does not work that way.
Your first mistake is a vain attempt at comparing the homosexual white, “civil rights” struggle with that of the formerly enslaved folk of african descent. How many white homosexual were strung up a tree, lynched, and had their genitals mutilated simply for being same gender loving? How many blacks lynched across the land for demanding their human rights? Compare the numbers and tell me who has the highest casualty in total. How many white homosexuals attended lynching parties of africans and said/did nothing or how many participated directly? How many white gays economically lynch non-white homosexuals everyday?
Why is it that the white homosexual communities think that the african communities [heterosexual and homosexual] have some kind of magical clout above and beyond their own? Why is the homosexual white community obsessed with its patronistic thinking that the african communities are a monolith and should always support their causes? If you cannot get your own to support you, why bother and attempt to use us as scapegoats? Why, because of your own internal racist and white supremacy pathology.
White homosexuals, in the attempt to establish political and social hegemony over their community, have marginalized black homosexuals in much the same way as their heterosexual counterparts. The racial power dynamics in both the homosexual community and the heterosexual community at large are merely two sides of the same coin. And the sad reality is that most white homosexuals will disagree with this post. White supremacy is alive and well among the “Rainbow Crowd”. Homosexual is not the “new black”.
Kevin Davis says
I love Anti White Supremacy post. Very truthful.
What I have to say is, if you don’t like the porn stop supporting it men of color. It is as simple as that. They are only going to produce what people what to see and that is, like someone else said, 95% white men.
Kevin Davis says
Not to be a prick, but i’m not attracted to the way Marc talks or his mannerism doesn’t that make me femophobic?
andrew says
F**k the PC police and their labels. Just enjoy the sex that you have with the people you are sexually attracted too. Of course, they have to be willing partners and over 18.
birdbreak says
if dude was as smart as people said he is, why would he say something that he KNOWS is going to get him negative attention? he could have simply kept his mouth shut. dude apparently isn’t wise enough to shut up.
as for the whole attracted to white guys, black guys or whatever, my thing is why do gay men feel the need to announce it. you would think that with the way these guys like marc dylan has to announce that they’re not into black guys, you’d think that they had all the black men in the world throwing themselves at them. all you gotta do is just say “i’m not interested”. you don’t have to say “i’m not interested in working with you because you’re black”. either way, you done exposed yourself. let’s call a spade a spade. dude is a racist.
birdbreak says
what i think is annoying is how you have these gay guys basically prejudiced as all hell, ready to talk about “be tolerant towards gay people”. you even have some of these knuckleheads prejudiced towards other gay men saying they’re too effeminate or whatever the fuck. i don’t know why some of these gay guys feel the need to boost themselves up while putting other people mainly gay men down. you’re not attracted to black men, fine BUT it certainly doesn’t mean that you’re better than the black men that you feel you’re above because you’re white. doesn’t mean that you can’t work with them, shake their hand or joke with them. i hate when gay men do that arrogant, i’m better than you because i’m masculine, white, or whatever bullshit.
dude, you’re gay. at the end of the day, you and the black gay guy that you think you’re better than are still fighting for your civil rights as gay men. you being white isn’t going to change that as your own white people aren’t trying to stand by your ass unless they are gay like you. even if you and your gay white comrades come together, you still don’t hold enough weight to change how the mindset of people so you need to get off your high horse. there’s plenty of nonwhite gay guys that contributed to the gay civil rights movement where your ass can do what you’re doing today so gtfoh with that bullshit.
rdw says
@birdbreak
You made some good points with your last comment. But as a black man, as much as I want to bash or call out Marc Dylan here, I can’t because I know damn well, there are a lot of black gay men (straight black women as well) out there too who feel the exact same way as Marc does, only seeking out/preferring men of their own race. Also, according to statistics, heterosexual black women are the only group of women, who are less likely to date or married (& boldly out loud say to the world they only want black men) out side their race, does that make them racist? Just like the actor Shemar Moore stated years ago, he is just into the “sistas” in his hood. I know it comes across as sounding racist, but in reality, just like Marc Dylan, it’s really just their preference, like we all have.
andrew says
rdw: Well said. We should all just enjoy having sex with the people we are sexually attracted too, assuming that they are attracted to us and are over 18.
Anti White Supremacy says
The Business of Race In Homosexual Porn
There’s an issue that has been bothering me for quite some time now, and I think it’s finally time to bring it out in the open here.
Why are there so few prominent African [Euro Black; Negropean; Half Breed], Latino, Arabian or Asian porn stars?
Does the porn business reflect the white supremacy of the mainstream society or is it simply because men of color do not actively pursue the business for other reasons?
I’ve heard some companies state that they don’t get alot of African, Latino, Arabian or Asian performers beating down their doors to star in their productions.
But what about all of the movies I’ve seen at the video stores or the countless internet sites featuring “thug porn?”
Is it safe to say that the men of color can only exist together in a niche market appealing to a certain fan base? Or that they are marginalized and only allowed to be perceived as thuggish?
I’ve often wondered who purchases the minority only titles that are so prevalent. Do they appeal to European men who have a unique fetish?
While it is true that porn stars such as Tiger Tyson are powerful players in their own right, it does seem that they are not elevated to the same A-list status as their white counterparts.
Now I bring this issue to the table not to stir up controversy but to get to the root of what’s really going on.
What about the men of color performers who have gained some notoriety you might say?
Well, there’s Tiger Tyson, Matthew Rush, Diesel Washington, Brian Bodine Jason Tiya, Viper and some others whose names elude me right now, but not all of them have had starring roles outside of the stereotypical thug porn realm.
Is there an unspoken rule about certain white performers not wanting to work with minorities?
I’m really not sure what to think so that’s why I am posing all of these difficult questions.
On my journey through life I’ve come to realize that there certainly is racism within the LGBT community and so I just wondered is it also rampant in the gay porn business community?
The only high profile Asian performer that I can think of at this time would be Brandon Lee and he certainly doesn’t ever seem pigeonholed in the roles he’s done.
So maybe audiences just don’t really get off to seeing African men in particular fucking alongside a European guy?
And what about Latino porn stars? Well, let’s see there was the late Rocky, Rafael Alencar, Lex Sabre, Vin Nolan and some others.
Michael Lucas has a scene with Brian Bodine in one of his upcoming movies and I know he’s not discriminating about who he fucks onscreen, and I mean that in a respectful way, so I guess one has to ask the question: Do some porn models have a bias or lack of preference thereof for men of color and refuse to work with them?
To me it doesn’t matter what race, ethnicity or nationality a porn star is, it just matters that they’re hot and they look damn great having sex on camera.
I would love to know what everyone thinks about this subject and certainly would enjoy hearing from people of all walks of life.
Please forgive me for not being able to recall the names of every particular minority model of significance but I was aiming to conjure up performers that were at least familiar.
Xavier Washington says
This is hilarious. Last I checked porn was entertainment. It’s a job you get paid for. Anyone who states they will not perform with a person of color might as well go back to pre civil rights when whites didn’t/wouldn’t perform in theaters with black people. Stop trying to defend something that’s not defendable. As a black man I would give a shit that done other race doesn’t want to do porn with a black person. The occlusion I would draw is that they are just a fucked us business person or the don’t want to offend their racial hang up fan base. Either way who cares. It’s 2013 and this I boring!
tony says
for me, the whole “this is a preference” argument falls apart with one simple word- “why?”.
why don’t you like asian men?
why don’t you like black men?
Truckmuscle says
Is refusing to have sex with women being prejudiced against heterosexuality? Sexual preference is something we have fought hard for and the fight goes on. Leave Marc alone. I rest my case.